Autumn Pasquale - Dad wants Money;

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Subject: Autumn Pasquale - Dad wants Money;

{It`s quite hopeless to sue someone with nothing. The Jews were smarter in the O.J. Simpson punative murder lawsuit. But why shouldn`t Jews, Liberals, niggers, and mud-races PAY for the DAMAGE they do?  Including Political and Financial Damage to a Nation? Well, even without courts, it`s possible to get another kind of Justice. Grimly, that day approaches.  L.}

[Yea well, Denninger is a parent;]

Corner Cases Make Bad Law   http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=229418

Oh now this sounds like a good idea -- not:

A New Jersey father whose 12-year-old daughter was senselessly killed by a 15-year-old boy is suing the killer’s parents and pushing to enact a law that would punish parents of violent juveniles.

In October of 2012, 15-year-old Justin Robinson murdered 12-year-old Autumn Pasquale, who lived just 14 houses away, and dumped her body in a trash can.

Now, the girl’s father is suing Robinson’s parents and has started a movement to create “Autumn’s Law” to punish parents of violent juvenile offenders.

“Where were the parents?” asks Autumn’s dad, Anthony Pasquale. “Parenting comes with responsibilities, and one of those is to raise your kids right, to pay attention and know when they’re a danger to someone else. That’s a parent’s job.”

So what is a parent to do these days?
Said 15 year old is probably quite-capable of simply erecting the finger and walking out.  A parent who tries to physically prevent that is, under current law, charged with abuse.
This is really about trying to get someone -- anyone -- to pay, since trying the 15 year old for murder isn't enough.  No, we can't just cage someone (although they certainly deserve it!) and they have no money, and we're grieving and we deserve to be able to get something from someone.
Never mind that life isn't fair.

“If the minor who murdered my daughter was properly treated, parented, disciplined, and supervised my daughter would probably be alive today.”

And how does that happen if said minor doesn't want to be parented or disciplined?  You can't physically restrain or punish said kid any more; that's felony child abuse.
Never mind that said kid could deck you (as the parent) and there isn't **** you can do about it.  A "kid" willing to commit homicide would certainly be willing to punch your lights out -- yes?
The story on this sounds like a kid who's dad was a piece of ****; they got divorced after allegations of domestic abuse.  There's a psychologist who says the kid has multiple problems, but I'm not buying that crap.  Get me a forensic psychiatrist with a similar opinion and I might change my mind, but psychology is IMHO nothing more than snake oil and talking, and while the latter isn't a bad thing it sure as hell doesn't work when the target is actively evasive instead of wanting help.

“The law says broadly that I don’t owe my neighbors very much when taking care of my own children,” says Martin Guggenheim, a professor at NYU School of Law. “That’s the way it’s been forever. That’s the way it should be. The world is not better off if we impose on parents this extra fear of being made bankrupt or imprisoned because of their child’s misconduct.”

I agree -- especially in the namby-pants world we live in today, where any attempt to impose severe discipline for severe behavioral issues has good odds of resulting in you as a parent being prosecuted.
I know there are people who think corporal punishment is never appropriate, but I counter with the fact that there are people who understand only violence and the threat thereof.  ISIS head-cutters are one example -- admittedly an extreme example, but I only need one example for the point to be valid.
I'd love to latch on to and agree that it's the parents fault when something like this happens, but that clearly is not true.  We all know someone who had two or more kids and one turned out to be a five-alarm nightmare while the other or others were great.  Some turned their act around at some point but others do not. 

It is certainly true that some monsters are made, but I suspect just as many are born -- and it is manifestly unjust to hold someone accountable for a thing they no lawful means of addressing.